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Kirk
Jan 12, 2011 rated it it was amazing
This is the sorta book you always wish yous were able to write. It's thick, learned, full of digressions and personal asides, and the dude even translates the Homeric Hymn to Hermes (say it fast, I dare ya) out of Greek himself. I doubt it'southward for everyone. The footstep can be a tad pokey; I recommend reading a chapter at a fourth dimension and then setting the tome aside for a chip. Also, I suspect some of the personal stories can come off equally self-indulgent. And allow's confront it, Hyde is an academic, though this book This is the sorta book you always wish y'all were able to write. It's thick, learned, full of digressions and personal asides, and the dude even translates the Homeric Hymn to Hermes (say it fast, I dare ya) out of Greek himself. I uncertainty it's for everyone. The pace can be a tad pokey; I recommend reading a affiliate at a time and then setting the tome bated for a bit. Also, I doubtable some of the personal stories can come off as cocky-indulgent. And let'southward face information technology, Hyde is an academic, though this book is merely theoretical when the doctor rolls up his sleeves and starts getting signifiggy with it with MC Umberto Eco and DJ Jazzy Jung. Folks cool with those tics may object to the cantankerous-cultural synthesis, which seeks out parallels between Greek, Native American, and African-Am (Zulu!) trickster stories---today most culturographers (to create my own schoolhouse of criticism) emphasize differences and dichotomies.

All these equivocations aside, I still say it's a fascinating, educational read. I'm a huge fan of Hyde's earlier volume THE GIFT, fifty-fifty though the style in that ane is probaby fifty-fifty more off-putting. Each affiliate seizes upon a certain trait of tricksters (hunger, lying) or an image associated with them (threshholds) and explores the imaginative implications. The signal ultimately is to explore how resonant trickster figures are for a culture: they represent the "disruptive imagination" that inverts, erases, and overturns conventional wisdoms. Hyde then seeks to illustrate these characteristics with what might strike some every bit a fairly random sample of modernistic examples. It'south hard for me to recollect of another work that invokes Marcel Duchamp and Frederick Douglass or John Cage and Claude Levi-Strauss in the aforementioned breath. Sometimes the assertions can be a piffling fuzzy; I'm still trying to figure out the reading of Douglass. In other cases (Ginsberg) it's well-nigh a trivial too piece of cake to view them as Hermes types. Nevertheless, for those who have the patience, Trickster is similar following a brilliant mind make synaptic connections. Again, information technology's the type of book it would exist fun to try if one had the reputation that Lewis Hyde does. And, in an age of PowerPoint listcicles, it's refreshing to bound into something loose and amorphous. Information technology gives one's brain its own room to breathe.

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Mir
Tricksters are on the road. They are in-between.
Tricksters are modify-agents who both disrupt and create.
Tricksters are always looking for the door.
Tricksters break artificial restrictions.

This is a fantastic merely not entirely trustworthy book. It is thoughtful and idea-provoking. I didn't agree with all his conclusions or inclusions, but I enjoyed because them and got something out of even the parts I disagreed with.

Yous'll too probably discover some unfamiliar myths and texts to enquiry fu

Tricksters are on the road. They are in-betwixt.
Tricksters are alter-agents who both disrupt and create.
Tricksters are e'er looking for the door.
Tricksters break artificial restrictions.

This is a fantastic but non entirely trustworthy volume. It is thoughtful and idea-provoking. I didn't concord with all his conclusions or inclusions, merely I enjoyed because them and got something out of fifty-fifty the parts I disagreed with.

You'll also probably find some unfamiliar myths and texts to research further.

Highly recommended. Read with an open up but disquisitional listen.

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Kerfe
May 01, 2009 rated information technology it was amazing
If Neil Gaiman and Michael Chabon haven't read this book and borrowed concepts liberally, and then they are operating in a parallel universe, mining the same sources. It'southward a rich and deep vein.

Hyde rambles through the many means Trickster figures influence human thought and activity. The idea of the disruptive every bit necessary, fifty-fifty sacred, to life, has wide distribution. "...the origins, liveliness, and durability of cultures require that there exist space for figures whose function is to uncover and disrupt

If Neil Gaiman and Michael Chabon haven't read this volume and borrowed concepts liberally, and so they are operating in a parallel universe, mining the same sources. It'southward a rich and deep vein.

Hyde rambles through the many ways Trickster figures influence human thought and action. The idea of the disruptive as necessary, even sacred, to life, has broad distribution. "...the origins, liveliness, and durability of cultures require that there be space for figures whose function is to uncover and disrupt the very things that cultures are based on."

Even though many of the Trickster figures were familiar to me--Raven, Coyote, Monkey, Hermes--others were non--Loki, Eshu, Legba--and Hyde makes connections that reveal layers I hadn't known or seen. He also discusses how mythology becomes reality, as humans themselves get shape-shifters, re-aligning the context of their work and their lives, and changing their society/culture in the process. I peculiarly enjoyed reading about the motivations and working methods of Marcel Duchamp and John Cage, and every bit a upshot volition always look at their work and lives in an entirely different way. The section on Frederick Douglass also gave me a fuller and more nuanced insight into his influence and life.

"If nosotros think the ideal is existent we are seriously mistaken."

Life is messy. Try to control it besides tightly and it will burst. Better to laugh and occasionally let Trickster accept his way.

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Anna L  Conti
Jul xxx, 2012 rated information technology it was amazing
The power of this book, for artists, is the overwhelming evidence of our descent from a being more than than man, less than divine - one who inhabits the crossroads, crosses boundaries, works the joints, sees more and risks all.
Richard Newton
Jul 07, 2017 rated information technology really liked it
I detect information technology hard to categorise this book. It certainly is non quite what i expected it to be. Highly intellectual - a cantankerous between analysing folk stories, philosophy of art and creativity - all effectually the concept of the trickster. I too tin't work out if it is profound or just very clever. But information technology's certainly interesting.

From the start of the volume it jumps into intellectual deep waters, in that location is no gentle introduction. Don't have the cover blurb nigh modern creators/artists too seriously. The

I find it hard to categorise this book. It certainly is not quite what i expected it to exist. Highly intellectual - a cross betwixt analysing folk stories, philosophy of art and creativity - all around the concept of the trickster. I as well can't piece of work out if it is profound or only very clever. Merely information technology'southward certainly interesting.

From the start of the book it jumps into intellectual deep waters, there is no gentle introduction. Don't take the encompass blurb most modern creators/artists too seriously. They are mentioned and analysed simply to a much lesser degree that characters from different cultures folk stories who all exhibit being a trickster.

It took me quite a while to get into the book only overall I enjoyed information technology. It now sits in my intellectual oddities pile.

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tJacksonrichards
Hyde's interpretive framework for trickster mythology is structured more than or less every bit follows:

Gods & Heaven = societal hegemony / capitalists / wealthy i% / status quo
Trickster = liminal, generative force (culture / ideology) disruptive to condition quo
Humans & Globe = subaltern / marginalized / labor / 99% / beneficiaries of trickster arbitration

It'southward a uncomplicated, serviceable analytical rubric applied toward some decent comparative mythology ('trickster genealogy') whereby he establishes elements of his o

Hyde'southward interpretive framework for trickster mythology is structured more or less every bit follows:

Gods & Heaven = societal hegemony / capitalists / wealthy ane% / status quo
Trickster = liminal, generative force (culture / ideology) disruptive to status quo
Humans & Globe = subaltern / marginalized / labor / 99% / beneficiaries of trickster mediation

It'southward a simple, serviceable analytical rubric practical toward some decent comparative mythology ('trickster genealogy') whereby he establishes elements of his own awkward critical lexicon ('clay-work', 'finding pores', 'two-fashion chance', etc) the likes of which are then employed in diverse associative forays with the piece of work of avant-garde artists like John Cage and the life of Frederick Douglass.

Mythological affinities among disparate peoples being the stuff of grade-school introductory surveys, the basic pattern-recognition MO of Hyde'south trickster genealogy not only wears itself out early on on, it also suffers—due to its fundamentally prescriptive nature—from egregious selective bias and oversimplification (Hyde, to his credit, readily acknowledges both). Nor is he aided by a muddled and needlessly protracted thesis (put just: tricksters generate civilisation by disrupting the status quo) which could've easily been consolidated into half the page count by omitting much indulgent, reiterative rhetorical fluff and foregrounding his finer points with more than concise headings like, say, 'Rejuvenation From Destruction' and 'The Function of the Avant Garde' instead of his terribly clunky organizational wordplay ('Shameless Speech and Speechless Shame' or 'Change the Rap and Sideslip the Trap' etc).

I admire the thrust of Hyde's project, his enthusiasm for the material, and specially his implications to disrupt, hack, culture-jam, re-engineer, backfire, reappropriate, wreak havoc, dirty, overthrow, subvert, transgress etc (I was frequently reminded of the late Saul Alinsky who dedicated his Rules For Radicals to lucifer). I'm also certain there is an ingenious long-form essay to exist culled from all the gluttonous intellectual bloat found herein. But as information technology is—Hyde making increasingly desperate, overcrowded associative reaches while also condign somehow more predictable with each expository gesture (ie. when Hyde writes 'To place these reflections on Hermes and Frederick Douglass in the larger frame of my projection...' at that place is finally no denying his painful overestimation of the complexity of his premise)—TMTW is so wildly overfed, redundant and heavy-handed that whatever potency might've survived in a tightly crafted essay form is sadly diffused into tedium here.

+ I was pretty turned off when he borrowed from Foucault ("All social structures do well to anchor their rules of conduct in the seemingly uncomplicated inscription of the body...") without proper credit :(

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Akemi G
December 16, 2016 rated it really liked it
Hermes was built-in in the morning, and by the evening, he was hungry for steak. (Such is the growth of god, you know.) And then he sneaks out the firm and steals the cows that belong to Apollo (his half brother).

Even though Hermes uses various tricks to encompass up his law-breaking, like forcing the cows to walk backwards, Apollo figures information technology out shortly enough and storms to the cave Hermes lives with his mother. He demands Hermes to render the cows, or he'd transport him to the underworld. (In other words, he'd kill him.

Hermes was built-in in the morning, and by the evening, he was hungry for steak. (Such is the growth of god, y'all know.) So he sneaks out the house and steals the cows that belong to Apollo (his one-half brother).

Even though Hermes uses various tricks to cover upwards his crime, similar forcing the cows to walk backwards, Apollo figures information technology out presently plenty and storms to the cave Hermes lives with his mother. He demands Hermes to return the cows, or he'd transport him to the underworld. (In other words, he'd kill him.) To this, little Hermes says, "Why exercise you bully on me, big brother? I didn't steal your cows. Practice I wait like a tough cowboy? I was born yesterday. I've never left this identify. I don't even know what a cow looks like. Apathetic, blah, apathetic . . ."

Amazingly, they come to terms. Non but that, they become friends, and Apollo swears he'd love Hermes above all other gods. (It should be noted that tricksters are non just breathy liars like, say, politicians, or loser type criminals. Tricksters are smart, charming, and often bring practiced lucks.)

This doesn't happen in the dualistic "you are either good or evil," and "you lot are either my friend or foe" value system. This book is a dandy guide to the dynamic ways tricksters like Hermes work, breaking the static lodge of things and brining fresh changes. Hyde covers broad diverseness of world mythologies, from ancient Greek to one-time Africa, native Americans, etc.

He is insightful, too. For example, take the above story and assume Hermes was a local resident. Outside, there was a land which didn't specifically belong to anyone before, merely recently, some new people had arrived and started farming. One twenty-four hours, hungry "Hermes" goes there and takes a moo-cow. Is that a theft? By the logic of newly settling people, yep. However, when "Hermes" caught a rabbit in the same area before, it was okay. What's the departure? Is it possible that the settlers stole land from the unsuspecting residents?

Tricksters prompt us to review our values, not in gild to reverse any situation just to bring farther definitions. I retrieve nosotros want to pay more respect to tricksters.

I took 1 star off considering I call up the arrangement of the volume tin can exist greatly improved. Also, his application of the trickster archetype to real life figures (etc) feels forced.

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Gabe Steller
May 10, 2020 rated it really liked it
Very cool examination of the Trickster figure in diverse cultures and the like functions his myths serve, and how he's like the father of imagination! Woohoo!

Was definitely one of those milky way brain books that starts one place, seems to get pretty abstract, and then brings it all home and y'all're like WooooOOOaaaAAAhhhh!!

Highlights included learning almost weird rituals like the medieval festival of fools where people would invade the church dressed in drag, or in grotesque masks, and drink an

Very cool test of the Trickster figure in various cultures and the similar functions his myths serve, and how he'due south like the begetter of imagination! Woohoo!

Was definitely one of those galaxy brain books that starts 1 identify, seems to get pretty abstruse, and then brings it all home and you're like WooooOOOaaaAAAhhhh!!

Highlights included learning about weird rituals like the medieval festival of fools where people would invade the church dressed in drag, or in grotesque masks, and drink and sing and trip the light fantastic effectually to gross songs.

As well as word of how tricksters can both inspire a challenge to the social club, and exist a manner to maintain it, his stories/traditions serving equally a safety valve for dissent, mocking (festival of fools!).

The comparisons of modern artists to tricksters doesn't completely avoid cliché but there is a suuuuper interesting exploration of Frederick Douglas, and the discussion of the public reaction to Robert Mapplethorpe'due south Homoerotic/graphic photography VS. public reaction to Piss Christ, is useful likewise.

Past the end Hyde, does sorta start to repeat him self a bit, and even tho information technology's merely about 300 pages, probably still coulda cut fifty or so. However, very worth it!

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Claudia
Very dull read not because it bored me but because it freaked me out. Had to take a break in betwixt chapters... Powerful, skillful stuff.

"They're all the same, these tricksters; they have no shame then they accept no silence." (p. 153)

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Very tedious read not because it bored me just considering it freaked me out. Had to have a break in betwixt chapters... Powerful, good stuff.

"They're even so, these tricksters; they have no shame and and then they take no silence." (p. 153)

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Aaron R.
Skimmed information technology because I had to render it.
Made my brain hurt.
Reread in future.
Kristen
Aug 01, 2013 rated it actually liked it
I enjoy reading about mythology, I call up, because I find myths to exist resonant, just it's often difficult to put my finger on why they seem so significant. In Trickster Makes This Earth, Hyde examines tricksters from various cultures (Raven, Coyote, Hermes, Krishna, Eshu) and talks about the ways that these figures signify a certain mental attitude toward life. For Hyde, tricksters embody the power to human action with cunning, turn accidents into opportunities, and subvert those assumptions that are so ingrained thursday I savour reading about mythology, I think, because I notice myths to exist resonant, but it's often hard to put my finger on why they seem so significant. In Trickster Makes This World, Hyde examines tricksters from various cultures (Raven, Coyote, Hermes, Krishna, Eshu) and talks about the ways that these figures signify a certain attitude toward life. For Hyde, tricksters embody the power to deed with cunning, turn accidents into opportunities, and subvert those assumptions that are and then ingrained they often feel similar facts. I call back he sums it up pretty well with this line from the final affiliate:

"...humankind has two responses when faced with all that engenders awe and dread in this world: the way of the shaman (and the priests), which assumes a spiritual earth, bows before it, and seeks to make alliances; and the way of the trickster (and the humanists), which recognizes no ability beyond its own intelligence, and seeks to seize and subdue the unknown with wit and cunning."

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D
I read the hardcover edition. Great text about how to circumnavigate traps of culture.

And at his mother's habitation, Hermes…
slipped sideways through the keyhole,
like fog on an autumn breeze.

The trickster is a purlieus-crosser, or brings to the surface a distinction previously hidden from sight. Trickster is the god of the threshold in all its forms.

Run a risk the rap and slip the trap

verse form by ishmael reed nearly ralph ellison
i am outside of
history. i wish
i had some peanuts; it
looks hungry there in
its cag

I read the hardcover edition. Great text about how to circumnavigate traps of culture.

And at his mother'south home, Hermes…
slipped sideways through the keyhole,
like fog on an fall breeze.

The trickster is a boundary-crosser, or brings to the surface a distinction previously hidden from sight. Trickster is the god of the threshold in all its forms.

Chance the rap and skid the trap

verse form past ishmael reed most ralph ellison
i am exterior of
history. i wish
i had some peanuts; information technology
looks hungry there in
its cage.

i am within of
history, its
hungrier than i
thot.

I'1000 no prophet. My chore is making windows where there were in one case walls. - Michel Foucault

Words be because of meaning; once y'all've gotten the meaning, you lot can forget the words. - Chuang Tzu

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Bill
Dec 18, 2008 rated it information technology was amazing
This book is adept for two reasons: ane. It makes anthropolgy super-interesting past giving raunchy examples of devious (and entertaining) beings; Tricksters ii. It exposed me to the thought of guilt and shame cultures, which every educated person should know about - but somehow I went to higher for 9 years and never heard of it.

This volume is written by a human who was head of artistic writing at Harvard, then if y'all don't accept 50k a yr to spend on school, this is the adjacent best thing.

This book is good for two reasons: 1. It makes anthropolgy super-interesting by giving raunchy examples of devious (and entertaining) beings; Tricksters ii. It exposed me to the thought of guilt and shame cultures, which every educated person should know about - just somehow I went to college for 9 years and never heard of information technology.

This book is written by a human who was head of creative writing at Harvard, so if you don't have 50k a year to spend on school, this is the next best affair.

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Espy
Mar 04, 2008 rated it liked it
Another great book by Lewis Hyde. It'southward not as heady as The Gift - but an interesting wait at the "trickster" in native cultures and in gimmicky life. Information technology appealed to me as a look at the socio-cultural history of people who are Machiavellian types, manipulators, and backside the scenes boob masters. I call up Westward and Cheney are modern solar day tricksters. Some other great book by Lewis Hyde. It'due south not as exciting as The Souvenir - but an interesting look at the "trickster" in native cultures and in contemporary life. It appealed to me as a wait at the socio-cultural history of people who are Machiavellian types, manipulators, and behind the scenes puppet masters. I call back W and Cheney are modernistic day tricksters. ...more
Matt Davis
This review has been subconscious because it contains spoilers. To view it, click hither. First, a caveat, this is very much an academic text. If you took a shot for every time Lewis Hyde wrote ", and then, " to make a indicate, you'd be dead by affiliate 2. Despite the academic density though, it is extremely thorough and conspicuously written.
This volume succeeded in widening my view of tricksters. While mainly focusing on Hermès, the author makes a wide tour of tricksters both mythic and human being and uses them to illustrate several important points. Tricksters are agents of transformation, existing
Starting time, a caveat, this is very much an academic text. If you took a shot for every time Lewis Hyde wrote ", so, " to brand a bespeak, you'd be dead past chapter 2. Despite the bookish density though, information technology is extremely thorough and conspicuously written.
This book succeeded in widening my view of tricksters. While mainly focusing on Hermès, the author makes a broad tour of tricksters both mythic and human and uses them to illustrate several of import points. Tricksters are agents of transformation, existing at "the boundaries" to challenge systems and either destroy or strengthen them. The key thought I was left with is that no system of belief is completely bullet proof, only by having tricksters, mythologies and societies are able to reconcile their own contradictions and embrace a fiddling bit of chaos - a system with tricksters can bend, a arrangement without tricksters will break (or break others - Lewis Hyde makes a few points about Protestantism, and how its inflexibility becomes oppressive both internally and externally). Tricksters also assistance you to embrace outside perspective, which I've already experienced post trickster, reading some non western literature.
This volume isn't perfect even so - while information technology is extremely interesting, it often wasn't more than the sum of its parts. I might have preferred this as several essays instead of an entire book. Several sections were a drag and the author had a tendency to ramble; the decision of the book contains several new ideas just equally I thought he would be wrapping up. And he admits to forcing some ideas, such every bit the idea that the biological necessity of hunting should necessarily lead to tricksters.
Nonetheless, tricksters have invaded my encephalon - I'll exist on the scout for boundaries and just a fiddling bit of chaos from now on.
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Michele
Feb 01, 2021 rated it liked it
The author casts a wide cyberspace in his exploration of trickster gods and their cultural impact. And that includes the question: how is the trickster embodied in our heroes? This is the question that causes Mr. Hyde to go on a quest to find important historic personalities that portrayed the trait of the trickster.
Rune W
This book was a delight from start to stop, I found myself attempting to filibuster my reading of it so it would last longer. There were many well thought out and researched ideas in here that led me down on research paths of my own, and I'm so glad I took the swoop into reading this.
Penny
Hardcover

It took me awhile to work through this book. I would tackle a affiliate or 2 at a time and then set it aside, sometimes for a month at a time.

As a fan of Neil Gaiman and Joseph Campbell, I am learning that I enjoy ancient mythology particularly when you bring it to our century and overlay the pregnant and purpose of the myths with our ain human experience. Myths serve a purpose, not just to entertain.

Hyde focuses on the Trickster, a character found in almost cultures mythology. Loki, The C

Hardcover

It took me awhile to work through this volume. I would tackle a chapter or two at a time and then set it bated, sometimes for a month at a time.

Equally a fan of Neil Gaiman and Joseph Campbell, I am learning that I bask aboriginal mythology especially when you bring it to our century and overlay the meaning and purpose of the myths with our ain man feel. Myths serve a purpose, non just to entertain.

Hyde focuses on the Trickster, a character found in well-nigh cultures mythology. Loki, The Coyote, there are the tricksters we know. And so there are many nosotros practice non know.

The role of the Trickster is non only for causing trouble for trouble'due south sake.

Overall each of these new and familiar tricksters remind u.s.a. that life is messy. It isn't supposed to run placidly. Tricksters stir things upward, make things happen, sometimes causing pain, sometimes cognition and advancement, entertainment. Without Tricksters our homo experience would be boring and stagnate.

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Amanda
Philosophy, inventiveness, cultural anthropology, storytelling and the importance of the Trickster archetype.

While the author takes in Hermes (Classical Hellenic republic), Eshu (Yoruba), Loki (Norse), The Monkey King (China), Coyote (indigenous Northward America), Ananse and Aunt Nancy (Ashanti) and Wakdjunkagla (Winnebago), Inanna (Sumerian), Matlacihuatl (Mexico) and more, this book is far more than a mere identity parade of Tricksters from effectually the world.

Instead, what nosotros accept is a highly accessible, intellectua

Philosophy, creativity, cultural anthropology, storytelling and the importance of the Trickster archetype.

While the writer takes in Hermes (Classical Greece), Eshu (Yoruba), Loki (Norse), The Monkey Male monarch (People's republic of china), Coyote (indigenous Due north America), Ananse and Aunt Nancy (Ashanti) and Wakdjunkagla (Winnebago), Inanna (Sumerian), Matlacihuatl (Mexico) and more, this volume is far more than a mere identity parade of Tricksters from effectually the earth.

Instead, what we have is a highly accessible, intellectual and thought-provoking application of the trickster myth to art, literature and culture in general. Hyde philosophises on the origins and commonalities of the archetype, and identifies meaning differences in the Trickster as (mainly) he appears beyond cultures.

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Brad McKenna
I was going to edit my notes simply you know what? I'k not. Hither they are, warts and all:

"The name 'Hermes' once meant 'he of the stone heap' which tells us that the cairn is more than than a trail marker- information technology is an change to the forces that govern these spaces of heightened uncertainty, and to the intelligence needed to negotiate them." (p. 6)
Did his name really mean that? Yes: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Herm...

Most tricksters are male, even in Matrilineal club. The author posits that this may

I was going to edit my notes but you know what? I'k non. Here they are, warts and all:

"The name 'Hermes' once meant 'he of the stone heap' which tells the states that the cairn is more than a trail mark- information technology is an alter to the forces that govern these spaces of heightened uncertainty, and to the intelligence needed to negotiate them." (p. half dozen)
Did his name actually mean that? Yes: https://world wide web.britannica.com/topic/Herm...

About tricksters are male, fifty-fifty in Matrilineal society. The author posits that this may be due to their lusty, notwithstanding lacking many offspring, nature. Women Tricksters would exist apt to have more kids if then brawny. Not sure if this idea holds h2o, though. Neither is he. (8)

At that place's Tricksters in the Dejection. Stack-O-Lee? (9)

"The Devil is an agent of evil but a trickster is amoral not immoral." (10) That's why the Devil is not a trickster, despite some in Christianity claiming so.

Cheyenne stories sometimes name Coyote "White Man". This could be European Influence or coincidence since Old Man Coyote has white pilus. (12)

"If Trickster were e'er to get into power, he would stop being Trickster." (footnote on 13)
Hermes invented lying because he wanted to consume meat. (17)

The primeval mention of the word "dolos", trick in Greek, is baiting a claw to catch a fish. (xviii)

"So Trickster is cunning about traps only not and then cunning equally to avoid them himself." (20)

Magpies are recurring antagonists for Coyote (28)

Winnebago is the name of a tribe in Wisconsin. (29)

Trickster look for opportunity, which comes from the Greek word, "poros", from which we also get the word, pore, as in skin pore or opening. (46)

Once upon a time each urban center-country in Aboriginal Greek had their own gods. When Hesiod was effectually, generally idea to be between 750 and 650 BCE (same time every bit Homer), there was a pan-Hellenistic movement. The dissimilar forms the Trickster takes in unlike Native American tribes is like this pre-unified Hellenic republic. The endeavor to try to label each Trickster the same, or at least by and large the same, is the Pan-American Tradition just attempted by colonizers. The tribes considered themselves singled-out and proudly so. (68)

Some traditions say the Trickster invented linguistic communication, whether literal of simply gave people permission to talk where before it'd been forbidden, is uncertain. (76)

Myth Overlaps
Coyote can bring his wife back from the land of the decease, only if he doesn't expect back to see her on the fashion out. Is this influenced by the Orpheus tale? I actually wish we hadn't killed so many natives for many, many, many, reasons. The relevant one here is to run into if this story was retro-fitted later on colonizers infected native ways of thinking with European traditions. (83)

Loki steals the Apple of Immortality and The Monkey King steals the Peaches of Immortality. The Devil tricking Eve into eating the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil seems to be an adaption of these myths and perchance the genesis (pun very much intended) of the Abrahamic devil being thought of equally a trickster. Or was this story supposed to show him as a trickster and non the source of all evil? Did the Christian scribes who kept the religion alive in the vastly illiterate Dark Ages transform the ID of a trickster from troublemaker who does both expert and evil to a being who does only evil? (103)

Affiliate 5 General Thought: Divination/fortune telling is brought-to-me-by Tricksters like The Yoruba's Eshu. Because fate is set up just by calling on the Trickster by throwing palm nuts (or yarrow stalks similar in the I Ching), he can give you insights needed to modify your fate.

Hermes of the Market place:
An altar, furnished with lamps, was placed before the statue; the inquirer, after lighting the lamps and offer incense, placed a coin in the right hand of the god; he then whispered his question into the ear of the statue, and, stopping his own ears, left the market identify. The get-go audio which he heard outside was an omen. (concept from p. 135, I have to search for the prophecy because I returned the volume before I could re-create the text down)

Chapter 6 thoughts:

Mod artists, painters, composers, etc are tricksters because they exit a lot of their piece of work up to chance.

The writer spent a lot of time on composer John Muzzle, who didn't recollect or program is work, he flips a money or uses the I Ching. There were only brief mentions to tricksters of lore in the chapter. This was the showtime of my waning interest. I see the dude's point, that trickster spirit lives on through these peeps who rely on luck, but it got besides far away from the actual figures for my liking.
"Rudderless Intelligence" (from an NYT article published on vii-7-87) is a trait shared by psychopaths and tricksters. The difference is that trickers can do good, too; similar when Coyote gave burn.

Affiliate 7 thought:
The distance from Trickers grows ever more. While I requested Maxine Kingston Hong'due south Trapmaster Monkey to my reading list, I really started to not similar the book. It veered also far into traits of recent cultures, like Shame Culture. Again, I appreciate the points but it was not what I was looking for. I started skimming at this chapter.

Chapter 8 thought:
After a cursory enjoyment of the discussion of how what is considered muddied around the world, I lost interest again.

Affiliate 9 thought:
Some interesting stuff but it was too tardily. I enjoyed his getting back to the Hermes myth, but information technology was the aforementioned origin myth every bit earlier in the book.

I was dorsum in considering I liked how he claimed Frederick Douglass was a Trickster.

Yes! "Free Slave" is an oxymoron! Never thought of it that mode. I'm and so used to hearing information technology that I inferred information technology as "Freed Slave". (227)

Hermes stole Apollo's cattle; Douglass stole literacy. (227)

The slaves got Christmas to New Years off and if they didn't get drunk on Christmas it was an insult to their master's "generosity". Douglass things this time off was the only affair keeping slaves from revolting, it acted as a pressure release valve. (233) It was the onetime trickster'due south battle confronting appetite, for applejack, for revelry, as well every bit the filth so often equated with tricksters; Douglass would wake up hung over in the grunter's sty.

Douglass was neither blackness nor white, or so the author claims. He fabricated the "sin" of beingness literate; something no black homo was immune to be and at the aforementioned fourth dimension speaking too eloquently he raised the distrust of his white supports who wanted the country drawl of an uneducated black man.
Y'know to be authentic with his message of abolition. (247)

It'south possible Douglass had a white father, black mother, and ancestors in one of their lines that were Native American. I can encounter how the author felt justified in making the trickster connection, he was travelling betwixt so many worlds. (251)

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Jesse
Aug 16, 2012 rated it liked information technology
Trickster Makes This World starts great, spinning out some of the implications of various Trickster myths, and linking the Trickster archetype to a whole range of folk stories: Coyote, Hermes, Loki, Prometheus, and eventually, Alan Ginsberg, Frederick Douglass, Krishna, and many others. Hyde draws out the subtleties of Trickster's methods and furnishings, and it makes for entertaining and thought-provoking reading. Unfortunately, the basic messages of transgression, boundary-crossing, marginalizatio Trickster Makes This Globe starts smashing, spinning out some of the implications of various Trickster myths, and linking the Trickster archetype to a whole range of folk stories: Coyote, Hermes, Loki, Prometheus, and eventually, Alan Ginsberg, Frederick Douglass, Krishna, and many others. Hyde draws out the subtleties of Trickster'due south methods and effects, and information technology makes for entertaining and thought-provoking reading. Unfortunately, the bones messages of transgression, boundary-crossing, marginalization, and misbehavior eventually become a bit repetitive. The last few chapters are exhausting, escalating the rhetoric and drawing out the analysis until it starts to feel predictable and stale. These last chapters are saved by a couple salient points and an interesting utilise of real-life examples (these are the chapters on Ginsberg, Douglass, et al) but they're harder to get through than the playful early writing. ...more
Amanda (Amy) Goode
Trickster Makes This Earth came to me by way of Emily Levine'due south TED talk: http://world wide web.youtube.com/watch?v=grtGI7... back in February 2013. I was specially interested in the notion that "trickster" is a boundary crosser by nature. I read aloud from the book on our travels to and from Little Rock, Arkansas in March 2013- a trip which ended with my husband being fired by the visitor he had worked for since 1992. At present referred to equally the "great upheaval" this was the culminating event of a three year per Trickster Makes This World came to me by manner of Emily Levine's TED talk: http://world wide web.youtube.com/watch?v=grtGI7... back in Feb 2013. I was particularly interested in the notion that "trickster" is a boundary crosser by nature. I read aloud from the volume on our travels to and from Piddling Rock, Arkansas in March 2013- a trip which ended with my husband being fired by the visitor he had worked for since 1992. Now referred to every bit the "smashing upheaval" this was the culminating event of a 3 year period of anguish for our family and ultimately proved to exist our liberation. I now believe that Trickster was sent to guide us out of the underworld, across the river Styx and back into an earthly, more than human being realm. If you have discovered this book, all I can say is go in, sit downward, shut up and hang on. ...more
Matt
Jul 24, 2010 rated it actually liked it
This is a very analytical view of trickster mythology, although I think this is a good thing, because the themes that emerge give a fuller motion picture of what tricksters are virtually.
For example, tricksters are obsessed with traps: setting them and escaping them. Merely like they're attracted to gates.
There'southward some application of the trickster mythology to real life people like Frederick Douglass, Maxine Hong Kingston, and Marcel Duchamp (sp?). The real-life figures never seem to friction match up to the legends
This is a very belittling view of trickster mythology, although I call up this is a skillful thing, because the themes that emerge give a fuller picture of what tricksters are almost.
For example, tricksters are obsessed with traps: setting them and escaping them. Just like they're attracted to gates.
There's some awarding of the trickster mythology to real life people like Frederick Douglass, Maxine Hong Kingston, and Marcel Duchamp (sp?). The real-life figures never seem to match upwards to the legends, although themes of breaking shame barriers and stealing to become one'southward rightful place make a lot of sense.
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Andrew Bourne
Overall: Clunky. Watered-down. Merely with a fair amount of interesting material insofar as information technology is quoted and paraphrased (equally opposed to generated past Mr. Hyde himself).

The text sketches out some luke warm versions of altogether dropdead wonderful myths, each choicecut from around the earth. Legba, Argus, Coyote, etc. But Mr. Hyde is too present in both folio count and interpretation for my liking. I want above all else to fantasize and weigh the various implications myself. He is a handholder and an

Overall: Clunky. Watered-down. But with a fair amount of interesting textile insofar as it is quoted and paraphrased (as opposed to generated past Mr. Hyde himself).

The text sketches out some luke warm versions of birthday dropdead wonderful myths, each choicecut from around the globe. Legba, Argus, Coyote, etc. But Mr. Hyde is besides present in both page count and interpretation for my liking. I want to a higher place all else to fantasize and weigh the various implications myself. He is a handholder and an oversimplifier, and I want his voice out. The myths in themselves are merely so much more than fun and interesting than he is. They do non demand to be countersunk into a slab of tedious conjectures.

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Brian
Mar 22, 2007 rated it it was amazing
Recommends it for: anyone
By far my favorite non-fiction volume. The ability of the book lies in its ability to explain the enduring presence of trickster myths beyond a number of different cultures by connecting tricksters with the impulse of artistic cosmos. By relating tricksters to real-life artists, Hyde demonstrates the relevance of ancient myths to the modern globe. The book is elegantly written, compelling, and a pleasance to read. I was nonplussed the first time I read it.
Anna
I found the first half more interesting and compelling then the second one-half of modernistic tricksters. Does didn't land with me likewise, but I'm also probably a petty sensitive to the deification of men right now. (Likely why information technology took me and so long to go through this)

Actually interesting text, and it's interesting to get background for some of the thinking of writers whose work I enjoy who accept spoken admiringly of the text, like Neil Gaiman and Michael Chabon.

I found the first one-half more interesting and compelling and then the second half of modernistic tricksters. Does didn't country with me likewise, but I'g also probably a lilliputian sensitive to the deification of men right now. (Likely why it took me and so long to get through this)

Actually interesting text, and information technology'due south interesting to become background for some of the thinking of writers whose piece of work I enjoy who accept spoken admiringly of the text, similar Neil Gaiman and Michael Chabon.

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Nettles
Oct 20, 2021 rated it did not like it
Dnf 30%

Funny how Hyde came up with his own definition of trickster—which doesn't include deception btw—and then blames other academics for why women are excluded and can't be tricksters.

The writing was a certain type of bookish pretentious that didn't state for me. (What does he hateful that the cows Hermes kidnapped correspond asexuality?) I tried to read this in a volume gild and nosotros but had enough and moved on.

We're looking for other books with Trickster god myths now.

John Isaacson
Apr eighteen, 2012 rated it it was amazing
I read this before I started joe Campbell's hero with a yard faces so it blew my mind. Hyde cites multiple examples of trickster characters in dissimilar cultures, discusses the social function of tricksters (keep societies flexible and able to adapt), and shows how artists serve a trickster role in club. I read this before I started joe Campbell'due south hero with a one thousand faces so it blew my mind. Hyde cites multiple examples of trickster characters in different cultures, discusses the social function of tricksters (continue societies flexible and able to conform), and shows how artists serve a trickster role in society. ...more
Aran
Great. Intriguing riffs off of erstwhile tales, all linked together by this foreign character.

I accept to go work on my thesis now, or I would finish reading it now. Another day.

Matthew Richey
Some parts I liked more others, merely a very fun, engaging, enlightening, and interesting read. I may say more afterwards.

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